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I just recently tried to start a coutner strike source server. i followed the tutorial perfectly and i've tried 3 other programs but everytime i try to get my friends to join my server it says server not responding. i used to use one program to host a gmod 10 server but when i try css it doesn't work sv_lan is 0 (and another thing i don't have a router, just a modem) but it says at the beginning "Network: IP 192.168.1.3" i cannot seem to change it to my external ip anybody have any idea? i've also turned off firewall completely on the server computer any help?
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heh. go to whatismyip.com, get that IP address for people to connect to.
you need to go to 192.168.1.1, log in to whatever it is, and set the DMZ to your ip (192.168.1.3) and they will be able to access. good luck
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your modem has a built in dhcp server, which means you will have to forward the ports to the network ip in the modem configuration. Or create a dmz channel with your server in it, like datamunk said. Then you will have to connect to the game server with the lan ip, and everyone else with the external ip.
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thank you, but i don't know how to set anythign up from there i never knew or heard of dhcp does the configuration vary on the type of modem i have? or what and what do u mean i have to goto 192.168.1.1 and login?? if u mean type it in the web address it doesn't bring me to anything, anybody have a step by step process i could take to set my server up?
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also i've never forwarded a port since i don't have a router i don't have any experience
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If your ip is 192.xx.xx.xx or 10.xxx.xxx.xxx or alike you're behind a router..
so take a look at the box, see what manufacturer and what type number it has and look it up on portforward.com
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09-27-2007, 01:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-27-2007, 02:04 PM by Demonic_fate.)
i just changed my ip to a static ip and i have dhcp disabled should i be able to host now and i've tried over 5 different ips to log into the router thing and there was no possible way i could log in to anything. also portforward.com only had 1 router made by my "modem"? "router"? company and it did not have the model number i had
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Okay, there is a lack of clarification in this thread, so I am going to demistify some things.
First, let's define some things.
1) A Public IP. A Public IP is any IP address that is accessible ANYWHERE on the external internet, so if you connect to that IP you can access it anywhere on the internet, everyone that is connected to the internet is provided with at least one Public IP, it is REQUIRED to access the public internet.
2) A Private IP. A Private IP is an IP address that is ONLY accessible on a private network, such as your own, or someone else's. The IP Standard states that there are reserved ranges of IP addresses used exclusively for private networks, these ranges are:
10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (effectively anything with 10. at the beginning, so 10.x.x.x)
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (effectively anything starting with 172. going from 172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x)
192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.0 (effectively anything starting with 192.168, so 192.168.x.x)
3) Routing. Routing is a whole lot of things, but in this case we will define it as a method to bridge private and public networks (your private network and the internet). There are many ways to do this, but the most common method is called NAT, Network Address Translation. In this, and most instances, you get one Public IP and your Router routes information to and from your Public IP to your private network. In most instances of this your internal network are provided Private IPs.
4) DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol). This is a method used to obtain IP addresses, be it public, or private. When a computer connects to a network (at least in this case) it request an IP address and other stuff through DHCP. Hopefully, if there is a device setup to handle this properly, the computer will receive this information, and gain connectivity to the network/internet.
So, here's the skinny.
From the sounds of it, your solitary device (modem) has a built in Router as well as some other services. So what it does is that device handles the Public IP and all the traffic between the internet and your private network. It is giving all computers connected to it Private IPs as indicated by the numbers you have given me.
You need to do one of the following:
1) Get on that device and configure it to do your bidding, by port forwarding, and/or other methods.
2) Replace your modem/router combo device with a straight up modem, and have that plugged into a stand-alone router.
How you can get on your device:
1) Get the manufacturer and model information, and look up the manual on the manufacturer's website, and manually gain access to it.
2) Request access to the device from your ISP. To do this you need to call them, and ask them how you get on it to configure things such as port forwarding, and other advanced settings. Some ISP's will be dicks and deny you access, some will be useful and help you, some will have bad techs and not know WTF youre talking about.
Should you decide to replace your modem/router combo device with a regular modem and stand-alone router, you should do your homework. First, call your ISP and ask them if they offer any free or discounted modems that do not do routing or any NAT. Second, should that fail, ask them what sort of modem you need to get, there are DSL Cable and other types of modems, to replace your current one. Should you be at the second stage where you need to buy one yourself, I recommend consulting your local Fry's or Newegg (assuming you are in the US), or their online stores. Also, if they don't have any modems without routing for sale (your ISP), ask them if they would recommend any, just to make sure they are compatable with their networking methods.
Anyways, this is what you need to be able to get anywhere, as it stands, your modem/router combo device is limiting your access to the internet. This is a good and bad thing, as it not only protects you from unwanted traffic (bots, spammers, etc), it is also preventing you from getting your server online.
AT NO TIME SHOULD YOU MENTION TO YOUR ISP THAT YOU ARE HOSTING A SERVER OF ANY KIND AT YOUR LOCATION
Most ISP's hate clients who host servers, and most ISP's in the United States have some of the worst customer service I've ever heard of, ever. Best to just try and avoid this sort of encounter.
I hope this helps.
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Oh, also. When you do get your router setup and all, you need to add a declaration during your server startup.
You need to find your Public IP that your ISP gives you, you can do this by going to http://www.whatismyip.com or other sites similar to it, and it will tell it to you. Then you add:
+ip (Public IP)
In the example format:
+ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Take note, no IP can exceed 255, or be lower than 0, and the last number for any IP a device can hold (be it Public or Private) cannot be 0 or 255.
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Also, if you decide to buy your own modem without routing in it, you will need to find an appropriate router, but fortunately they are very standard and there is a wide selection all over the place. Linksys is the arguably best, but there are plenty others that will do just fine too, however I recommend shying away from d-link. Talking to a local/online computer parts vendor for a router will lead to an approprivate router.
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wow thank you very much for the help i know more now because of u  and now i uderstand what i should do. thank you very much for ur help
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